In June, I reviewed and blacklisted Lean Belly Breakthrough, a weight loss program by fitness trainer Bruce Krahn. I also blacklisted Bruce’s other weight loss product Trouble Spot Nutrition because it shares the same testimonial photos with Lean Belly Breakthrough. But on Sunday, Bruce reached out to Contra Health Scam to defend his products and offer explanations to the questions raised by the scam review.
Initially, Bruce started off by accusing me of judging his product ‘by the cover’, that is, I did not bother to review the contents of his program before calling it a scam. But after I apparently made him to realize that it was his own fault that his product was judged by the cover (his scammy advertising, lies about testimonials, his use of ‘irritation’ instead of ‘chronic inflammation’ etc), he humbled himself and started explaining why he did what he did.
Below I’m going to share excerpts from the email conversation:
1. About the Backstory
Bruce: First off, the backstory of what happened to my father in law is 100 percent true:
He did have a heart attack while in an airplane (I can send you a video testimonial of him verifying the story).
He was given a program from a doctor [‘Dr. Heinrick’] that helped him quickly lose his belly fat and restore his health.
This program also helped his wife lose a substantial amount of weight in a short period of time.
Many others have since benefited from this same information.
2. About ‘Dr. Heinrick’
Bruce: The doctor exists however his name is not Dr Heinrick. That is a pseudonym. I have provided the name of the doctor to the compliance department at Clickbank and they have it on record.
I understand that some people hide behind pseudonyms for dubious reasons but this is not the case here. The story is very simple – he was told to clean up his diet, lose weight and reduce his inflammation. He was given some instructions on how to do it. The program isn’t proprietary. In North America doctors don’t talk about lowering inflammation with diet – they usually prescribe something. This isn’t something that a doctor in Germany would consider “revolutionary” but in North America (and some other less progressive countries) it is different. However, to my in-laws the concepts were new and the doc told them to share the concepts with others. Nobody is hiding- it is exactly as I said.
3. On Why He Used ‘Irritation’ instead of ‘Chronic Inflammation’
Bruce: I did not use the term “Inflammation” simply because people have heard that a million times before. When this happens people become “blind” to the term and don’t take action. The program cant help anybody if they don’t use it. The use of a different term is so that people pay attention.
4. Did His Father-in-law Receive the Program From Dr Heinrick For Free?
Bruce: My father-in-law did not receive his program or medical attention for free. He did not even have insurance. I don’t know the exact cost but I do know it was substantial.
5. About Suneil Kumar and ‘Doctor Certified’ Badge
Bruce: The “Dr Approved” badge was removed by us the moment Clickbank informed us that this service was not legitimate.
6. About the Untrustworthy Testimonials
Bruce: Regarding the testimonials – yes, some are shared with Trouble Spot Nutrition (TSN) but not the ones of my in laws and here is why. This event happened prior to the release of TSN. My in laws did not want their story told and it took me a very long time to convince them it was a good thing. The few pics that are shared between the sites are because some of the methods described in the TSN program are shared with the Lean Belly program. However, TSN goes into way more depth about individual hormone imbalance issues while Lean Belly is focused on inflammation. I think you would agree that good nutrition programs tend to have more commonalities than differences.
The most important fact is that these people and pictures are real and not stolen like so many others on the net. Our programs help people. We answer questions personally and we don’t screw people over if they want a refund. These are very important factors that make us more reputable than some of the sites you have reviewed.
Fate of Lean Belly Breakthrough
Bruce swears that he is not a scammer, and I have cause to believe that he is not. The fact that he reached out to me to explain himself testifies to this.
I also agree that the testimonials are not stolen photos and are from real people. I only called them untrustworthy and fake because of the way they were used on different products with different names attached to them.
Because of Bruce’s explanations, the fact that he reached out to answer my questions (which no scammer will have the balls to do) and the fact that everyone makes mistakes, I believe that his product deserves a second chance. So Lean Belly Breakthrough and Trouble Spot Nutrition are officially off Contra Health Scam’s Blacklist.
However, Bruce’s product still has a long way to go before it enters my Whitelist:
- First, Lean Belly Breakthrough’s presentation video and pitch page must be purged of all scammy advertising. All the mistakes/scam evidence pointed out by the first review must be corrected. If Lean Belly Breakthrough is as good as he says it is, then there is no point talking about ‘Big Pharma,’ telling long stories and using pop-ups to prevent people from leaving. Go straight to the point and for God’s sake, be brief!
The way you present your product goes a long way in telling prospective buyers how trustworthy you are. If you keep on lying to them and using the tactics found on Bruce’s product, then there is no way I will ever recommend that product to anyone. For instance, if you discover that a pharmacy is lying to you about a drug, will you ever buy that drug or recommend that pharmacy to others?
- I need to receive feedback from those who have used Lean Belly Breakthrough. If the positive feedback I receive about the product significantly exceeds the negative feedback, then it will be in contention for a spot in the Whitelist.
Conclusion
Lean Belly Breakthrough is a scam no longer (for now), but is NOT out of the woods yet. Your feedback on the product will determine its fate. So if you have used Lean Belly Breakthrough, please let me know whether it worked for you. Thank you!
Websites Under Probation: LeanBellyBreakthrough.com, TroubleSpotNutrition.com (NOT affiliate links)
I have not tried Lean Body Breakthrough, however, I received an email from WND that was a paid advertisement for Lean Body Breakthrough and it was a lengthy video that tries to keep you from exiting…when I went to research the product I found your initial review and this followup stating that he needed to change his advertising practices…he has not.
Hello- I purchased Lean Belly Breakthrough and had some questions regarding getting started. I contacted Bruce and he actually responded to my email personally. This was a pleasant surprise. I am enjoying the program so far.
Hi Gaileen ~ The elephant in the room is: Have you followed the program the way it is presented; and have you experienced the results Bruce emphatically claims in his pitch? Glad he personally responded. That speaks well of him. However, the results of his program are in question just as much as his questionable marketing methods. Thanks for your reply, Gaileen!
Hi, I was wondering a year on, how is the weight loss going? Did the program work as advertised? Thanks,
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Why does Bruce feel he has to bore people with redundant personal stories? Who wants to listen to the same thing over and over for God know how many minutes? Who cares if it works, it isn’t worth listening to his verbose stories. A marketing genius he is not!
Lean Belly Breakthrough seems to be working for me but I have to agree that the way Bruce sells the plan is really bad. His news letters also link to others selling related product using the same long video selling method. This makes it look like a scam just to get as much money out of people as possible.
So, I would like to try it comma but I’m still skeptical that these reviews are fake. How much weight have you lost, and do you feel better like the program advertises.
yes, I would like to know from all the people who say it works, how much weight did you loose and how hard is the process.
Don’t know if his product works, but he looks like a pretty healthy person…wonder if HE incorporates his program in his own life to DELAY the accumulation of plaque, diabetes, other diseases as he grows older…..?
I was thinking of doing this but will definitely be looking into it further, There are sure to be some things I should be aware of before I decide to get it.
Hello, I don’t know what others say about Lean Body Breakthrough Program but I have personally tried it and it is giving me good results so far. It depends on your Determination. It’s good program. Please don’t criticise it. Thanks 🙂
Thanks. All the reviews I’ve seen so far have been about the book/program. If it’s that great, why aren’t there reviews saying how well it works. Good or bad. You’re the first person I’ve found who has actually tried it.
Hi Kate, I’m taking a chance and have just ordered the program. Would you please mind sharing how long you have been doing the program and how many pounds you have lost? Also what other benefits have you noticed?
Hi TC, I am contemplating on ordering the program. Did it work for you? How much belly fat have you lost?
Thank u
Nikki
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TC< How are you doing on the program 1 year later? I can't find where anyone comes back and gives us their results good or bad. thanks,
Hi Kate, Can you give more details on your fitness journey? How much were you able to lose? Was it as much as the program claims? Most people aren’t criticizing, they are asking how it is going and is it legit? Details help everyone understand how well (or not) the program works. That is all I want to know. Can you recommend it or not? Thanks,
I have tried to get my head round all this? So far
Without success. The Bruce Krahn repetitive, and unconvincing examples are a put me off. This seems typical of all specifically USA snake oil sales talk.
Can somebody please tell me exactly what is contained in this pack? I had a fantasy of spreading cinnamon powder for 2 minutes every day! ! ?
So far I feel the need for more common sense details before any commitment.
And once purchased, I would hope people are not thereafter stuck with multiple further B.S. commercialistic crap. My pence worth ! Michael……..
Imbtrying to actually figure out what this 2 minute thing is. What does it involve doing? And why are these things so secretive?
I’ve not tried the program, but here’s a testimonial that seems valid. They tried the program for 30 days – test subject was 52 and 23 lbs. overweight – and had about half of the results promised. Basically eating good foods, avoiding bad foods and a one exercise. Duh! 🙂
https://www.alertthingy.com/lean-belly-breakthrough-review/
Hello Bruce,
I hate to break it to you, but you just read a fake review. Actually, this new blog is nothing but a fake blog trying to copy Contra Health Scam’s style, and they are not telling you the truth. For example, ‘Sophia Bell’ is just a stock photo shot using a model by name Shelby Todd. You can buy the photo at Deviantart.com:
http://kendra-paige.deviantart.com/art/Pocket-Full-of-Sunshine-210963458
What does this tell you? The owners of this site are liars, and they never tested Lean Belly Breakthrough on any ‘Kiki’!
I highly doubt that photo of ” Kiki” is a photo of a 52 year old woman.. and why isn’t there a before pic ? This testimony seems shady to me. But thank you for posting it.
In the review it said that the pic was not of her but only what her goal was.
I read that review also.
Bruce is like my ex. A lot of empty promises that if you believe you’ll end up paying heavily for mothing.
Scam
Sell something real
Tell the secret. The German Dr. Saved your life for free now you charge the world for it!
It’s an amazing post designed for all the internet visitors; they will take benefit from it I am sure.
I got this. Wish I didn’t. Got sick of selling more and more and more. I contacted Bruce. Asked for a refund. Ya he responded back saying here are 2 more “books” for you to have no charge. I did not download as I want a refund. Constantly getting more junk. I wrote again for a refund. No reply this time. There’s so much out there. And they go on and on and on. Now one that says it’s from the Bible. Yikes what’s next.
Hello Bonnie,
Are you saying that you have to continue to sell this product? or is it that you got sick of him continually trying to sell you more stuff?
Oh, and did you follow the steps and have any luck with losing the weight that he promises?
thanks in advance for your answer.
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I would like to hear from someone who has actually tried this and would be willing to share their true story and possibly real before and after pics.
Folks, I know nothing about this diet, but have listened to his message on facebook. I don’t doubt that diet and a form of exercise can clean up a person and help them lose weight. Three years ago in March, I was close to death… I had gone to doctors and had many tests done, and more suggested. To make a long story short, my daughter came over with a book called: CLEAN, by Alejandro Junger M.D. At the time I was in so much pain and 16+ pounds overweight, I was ready to try anything to rid my self of the pain. I was diagnosed with RA a few months earlier, but did not want to take strong medications… so all I had been taking was aspirin and Tylenol. Okay… I read the book! Started the recommended eating plan of 21 days! This plan knocked the built up toxins… Read more »
Lean Belly Breakthrough Program by Bruce Krahn. Does it Work or Scam You need to Read My Honest Lean Belly Breakthrough Review Before Buy Lean Belly Secret
And where might we read your HONEST review?
Aloha! I’m a health coach from Waikiki, Hawaii! On this website, we review products and programs related to healthy living, fitness, and general life mastery!
Thank you for addressing the leanbelly program in an unbiased manner. I was intrigued at first, but was soon turned off by the endless and redundant video. The claims seemed to be exaggerated. I also wondered about poor “Dr. Hendricks” who may have shared a great program, but is he getting compensated?Finally,I am over 65 and dislike digital books. I would much prefer a book format that I can hold in my hands to read.
I especially liked the part where his father in law woke him up early (5:30) in the morning to share his news, and Bruce was so excited, he spilled his coffee…
I was intrigued but them when clicked to find out more it went on and on and on and on.
Then you need to pay. Why can not you just show what is needed to be done if it only takes 2 minutes.
Anyways seems same as non processed healthy foods which I already do.
Will add more herbs .
this website is as big a SCAM as Bruce’s. if you go to scamadviser.com, this site and bruce’s were created days apart, 14 months ago. this one “supports” bruce’s. i’d take anything from either of these sites with a 50 pound block of salt!
Yeayyyy, someone has finally posted a response that makes a “lick of sense”! I think you’ve gotit!
I ordered Lean Belly approximately a month ago, also paid for it and to date have not received it.
What is the reason?
I wish I had read this before I listened to his 45+ min speech. I did download the books and am hoping for half the success he promises. At least NO foods to buy or pills!!
SHERRY: any luck yet? I see your post was a month ago. Have you lost weight???
the sales video goes on forever, and ever and ever…..How can anyone sit through this ? I was interested in the product but I don’t have all day to listen to repetitive dialogue. They lost me…
Do this simple 2 Minutes ritual to loss 1 pounds of belly fats every 72 hours
The material certainly has a lot of good information. BUT… The promo text specifically says “This program actually forces us to cheat on the weekend”, and “We are even eating bread, pasta and other carbs” – that simply isn’t true about the program; it’s 7 days a week from a restricted food list. ALSO, it says “We then pick the foods we like from the list and eat as much as we want” – not true, the program is a permanent 1800 calorie per day restriction. FINALLY, repeated promotion of “This Shockingly Effective, Fast And Simple 2-Minute Ritual ” – there’s no 2 minute ritual, there are 7 rituals which are more like daily habits one needs to form, and #6 is “Perform each of the following 2 minute exercises daily”, and there are 5 of them, plus meditation and stretching. 2 minute daily ritual is simply a LIE. For… Read more »
When money is involved, you never know who to trust. We all know what’s right for our bodies. We don’t need someone to tell us what’s best for “us”. Every person is different, but if you are over 35, you have been around long enough to know what works and what doesn’t for our bodies.
“First, Lean Belly Breakthrough’s presentation video and pitch page must be purged of all scammy advertising. All the mistakes/scam evidence pointed out by the first review must be corrected. If Lean Belly Breakthrough is as good as he says it is, then there is no point talking about ‘Big Pharma,’ telling long stories and using pop-ups to prevent people from leaving. Go straight to the point and for God’s sake, be brief!”
Dude there’s a reason its called marketing. If every company had to adhere to your standards big pharma wouldn’t be making billions.
So why did you remove what blacklist when no one has actually posted that it does what it says? So far no one has lost one pound per day. The follow-on reviews are all bogus say nothing reviews. Because you caved under pressure, your lists become irrelevant.
Thanks for your review of “Lean Body Breakthrough” for the general public.
I studied and digested the Terms and Conditions page of LBB and came to the conclusion that it is a gimmick.
LBB cannot make anyone lose belly fat fast as advertised.
LBB should be subjected to scientific tests or “clinical trials” complete with a control group first.
After this, the TACs will be corrected. Then LBB may be classified as an authentic system.
“three minutes from now” was at least 30 minutes ago…if this were a “real” thing that REALLY helped people who are suffering from, ahem, inflammation…this guy would have gotten to the point by now…NOT going for it!
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According to the video, the buyer does not get actual books but only purchases the right to download the information– so the buyer pays for the privilege of spending several dollars more in paper and printer ink, etc.